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I was a bit confused about the doings for today, but no worries. And, the task was more along the lines of... well... I felt more comfortable with what was done. We set up the work bench in the garage and did some outside straightening. The bench can be made to order, mostly. It can be up to 8' x 4'. I didn't want that much depth. I think 2' to 2 1/2' was chosen. Those kits make putting a bench together quite easy. And, this time, I had a help. When I put that first one together solo, and in tight confines, it took me a week or two to recover. The guys also had a notion to build 2"x4" supports under the top shelf, so as to allow more torque with fewer structural problems, on the bench, using the vice. As well, we put up the pegborard behind the bench.
The hardest part was moving the weights out of the way, actually. The hundred pounders, no matter your shape, are a bear to move. Though the 45 pounders aren't chump change. I think, last I counted, I have 1320, or close to that, in iron. Oh, and those olympic bars. Yeah... Still, with many hands... it's still heavy. :p Built, put in, pegboard and striping board to space that from the wall. All good. I did... need a rest after we finished. My electrical out there is... spotty, to be generous. I'm not sure it will handle the bench grinder. Even if so, I probably won't keep it plugged in. In a day or two, after I catch my breath, I'll get out there, with the pegboard attachments, and... monkey around. I might do some straightening up and finish a few things while I am at it.
You know, people don't understand much about the heart... levels of illness. But when you indicate that you could be on the heart transplant list by medical condition, then it makes sense. I'm not your average heart transplant nominee, either, though. I'm like the anti-nominee. The Energizer Nominee? :p Moving those weights was... nice. Yeah, it was hard, but... it brought back certain hungers. I want to get foam/rubber floor panels, those big jigsaw type, for under the bench. I just don't want to chip up the floor. But, yeah, moving those... Yum! Double Yum! However, first... nap time? Nah, but a good long sit. It seems my body won't let me work hard enough to kill myself. At least not quite yet. That's not the goal, just good to know. If I get to that point I will have to... proceed with some caution, however. These medicines don't allow my heart rate to increase, per demand, to a greater extent. So I need to use more caution than the last time I started weight training. Then again, I was taking ritalin as a boost, so... I'm not sure it matters. If that didn't kill me, this probably won't. Bleh.
Later.
You might check the nameplate, but I'd be surprised if the bench grinder draws over 10 amps fully loaded. 14 gauge wire (15 amp circuit) handles that just fine.
ReplyDeleteMost hand tools and small bench tools would be fine. A welder, etc. would be another story...
It isn't so much the amps. Though some (other) tools I am looking at suggest 20 amps, single thread. It's the 60 year old knob and tube wiring that makes me nervous.
ReplyDeleteIn talking with the gents, it was suggested, if I do this, to just run a 220/240 over, and break it down. Actually, I'd like to run two 220/240s over, keeping one pure, at 50 of 60 amps, and use the other to break down into various other outlets, possibly for the garage door, and for lighting. Two 220's might be good, if I want a larger air compressor in the future.
Hmm, perhaps a larger run, 400's?, and split that down? Of course, that assumes I even get that to my main box, which I don't know.
Then again, home electrical is a new field to me. I'm not sure if two runs are necessary. Or if one run can be pulled and still provide enough for all. But that doesn't sound right.
You don't get 400 (or 440-480). Guaranteed. You don't want to, and no domestic service runs that high, because it is markedly more dangerous that the 120/240v that is typical for residences. It is also almost always 3 phase power.
ReplyDeleteEven if you did, you'd need a 480 to 240 volt transformer. It is not as easy as 240 which splits into two phases at 120 volts each.
Bottom line is, you either study the code thoroughly yourself in order to be able to pass whatever inspections, or you hire an electrician to get it right.
As to your surmise, I could see the value of a single 50 or 60 amp circuit if you were plugging in something like a welder. For everything else, a 100 amp subpanel would allow you to wire up 20, 30 and/or 50 amp outlets and lights.
ReplyDeleteThis all depends upon the rest of the existing loads, a load calculation table, and the approval of your local code authorities.
Uhmhum.
ReplyDeleteOh fie. You know I'm looking into it. I'm going to have to check something. I saw, in the scribblings, something about not being able to, by code, send two 240 volt lines to a detached garage. But the thing with the internet, is code here is not code there, or then, necessarily.
ReplyDeleteA 100 amp box would be a little tight, even just for interior and security lights plus three 20a outlets. That doesn't even leave room for a 40a pull. Then again, a box with a 220v 50a might have room for that.
I know, most just say go with 15a. But several of my hand tools highly recommend 20a, more so if a longer extension cord is ever to be used. So that is why I am going with that. Hmm, and I probably... probably... wouldn't ever be using all loads full up at once. Probably.
There is always a work around. Perhaps two different paths, one through the house, one underground in conduit, so that they aren't together, for two lines. I'll... read more.
You can put more than 100 amps of individual circuits into a 100 amp box. A 50 amp welder circuit, a couple of 30 amp circuits for high amp individual tools (like a compressor) and a handful of 20 amp outlet and lighting circuits are all possible from a 100 amp panel There is a formula in the code that computes allowable loads...
ReplyDeleteAlso if you run a 20 amp circuit to multiple outlets/lights, it is still just a single 20 amp circuit.
100 amp sub-panel should power anything you reasonably need in a shop, unless you are trying to set up a production shop with multiple machines potentially running at one time (highly unlikely).
Yes it is confusing. A copy of the NEC and several hours of your time, may begin to shed light...
ReplyDeleteYeah, I suppose so.
ReplyDeleteI've been meaning to pick up the NEC anyway, just hadn't been a top priority to this point. I'll still have to find the local (county/state?) ordinances. But the NEC will give me a good initial draft. Bleh.
The nice thing about this project, when I get to it, is that it will break the ice on checking other wiring, and running a few other lines through. I've been dragging my feet on that, if other projects have been coming up first anyway too though.
There are some very solid articles out there. Still, it wouldn't be bad to do my own refresher, based on this type of material.
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