Wednesday, November 12, 2014

Finally, curiosity won.

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Sure, I was called a coyote, a trickster, by a man long ago.  He seemed upset, and would speak no further.  That is the truth.  And, I was annoyed with his proclamation, and hurt.  In spite of, after him saying it, actually... realizing, or believing.  A slight smirk ran the length of my indignation.  Now, I had sipped a bit.  If you have ever supped on libation, you may know that you can have... funny reactions to things.  And yet I was pretty sure.  A coyote, a trickster?  Even if, perhaps, I agreed that such was true, I didn't know what it meant, or at least what he meant by that.  I never have done the research, save very thinly.  One sentence definitions, perhaps a paragraph.

So, tonight, for the first time, I went looking.  No, I am not interested in such a story told by some, probably, plump middle aged British woman, or some green fanatic who doesn't understand squat, or some... well... you know.  I wanted to try to find some of these stories told by the old tellers.  As much as that is possible.  Of course, some of it might be... aggrandized for whites or a more general market.  And there would be variances.  The trickster is not just the coyote usually, but also the wolf, raven, and others.  Still, I thought I wanted to hear some of the stories.  Here are two.
This is not quite the creation story, so much as when men were introduced, though mostly about coyote.  The first two minutes or so... are a tangle of not much.  To get to the story, start at about 2:15, which is the last few seconds of... something... then the start of the story.

This was mislabeled.  It is about coyote and buffalo.

One thing,  I didn't realize coyote was set to fight monsters.  I have heard and read that often as I dug in tonight.  Literally.  There were other things in there.  Not always easy on the ego, even if these are all just stories.  As we have discussed.  Interesting to hear them from another... perspective.  Oh, the storyteller played Tanto, in one of the earlier versions obviously.  Harold J. Smith, was his birth name, but he was Mohawk.  What's in a name?

Out of curiosity, does anything seem... familiar?  *grins*

Just thought I'd share some of it.  Hmm?  Oh, right... I ought to take care of a few things.  A little heat, some coffee, a bite to eat, reset the dishes, and by the time all of that settles, I'll get to some other things?  Maybe.  Later.

2 comments:

  1. Hm. Kinda surprised your curiosity held out so long. I thought you knew the implications.

    Point of info, Kokopelli is said to be a trickster archetype also.

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  2. I say curiosity, as an abbreviation for a number of things, including the obvious. First, for example, I did know. From what I am seeing, while I may not have known the stories, I suggest I knew the rest. Take away the story, and leave the interpretation, and that is what I suggest I did know. Knowing the answer without the question. If... that is a flaw of mine, it is a strength too? As well, I feared having what I (thought I) knew verified or have it check out... Even know it alls don't like to know it all (rightly or wrongly, but according to their perceptions).

    What gets me, at least as I see things, is how well some of this plays out with the notion of War, as an apocalyptic rider, and nephilim. Few probably even believe the riders of the storm are nephilim. Some even believe the riders are 'bad guys'. Many do, calling change evil, choosing to believe their lives are innocent, and some other things. It might not be easy to see for any who hasn't looked at those things closely, and doesn't work well with... humanistic, or even theological, theory. But it's there.

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